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	<title>Comments on: HP Quality Center 10 from a Test Manager’s Perspective</title>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.beteoblog.com/2009/03/02/hp-quality-center-10-from-a-test-manager%e2%80%99s-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If QC is really that bad then why are so many companies using it? If it really was that terrible then it wouldn&#039;t have gained the market share it clearly has to day. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s perfect or that their aren&#039;t other solutions out there that might be a better fit but don&#039;t automatically discount it. If you need help identifying the best tool for a particular situation then we can help with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.testmanagement.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;test management tool evaluations&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If QC is really that bad then why are so many companies using it? If it really was that terrible then it wouldn&#8217;t have gained the market share it clearly has to day. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s perfect or that their aren&#8217;t other solutions out there that might be a better fit but don&#8217;t automatically discount it. If you need help identifying the best tool for a particular situation then we can help with <a href="http://www.testmanagement.com" rel="nofollow">test management tool evaluations</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>serge, thank you for your observations. i don&#039;t blog much but i have been in the solution delivery industry in the silicon valley for going on 19 years. test case mgmt and issue resolution (defect resolution) are my areas of specialization. i have logged 1000s of defects and i have written and executed 1000s of test cases and i have assembled and managed qa teams from 3 people to 30+ on multi million dollar deliverables (approx. 15 or so projects). HP Quality Center has to be one of the worst if not the worst all around QA Management utilities that exists in the marketplace today. Anyone who has composed small to very large test plans and managed those plans through the execution cycle would never design a tool in the fashion of HP QC. It was bad when it was mercury interactives product and it got no better when HP acquired it. HP QC isn&#039;t just a horrible qa application, it&#039;s a horrible application period. If you google &quot;Why HP QC sucks&quot; you will get hundreds of thousands of results and most of these are dead on accurate. If anyone is reading this, do yourself a favor and find or build a real Test Management Utility before you get in bed with HP QC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>serge, thank you for your observations. i don&#8217;t blog much but i have been in the solution delivery industry in the silicon valley for going on 19 years. test case mgmt and issue resolution (defect resolution) are my areas of specialization. i have logged 1000s of defects and i have written and executed 1000s of test cases and i have assembled and managed qa teams from 3 people to 30+ on multi million dollar deliverables (approx. 15 or so projects). HP Quality Center has to be one of the worst if not the worst all around QA Management utilities that exists in the marketplace today. Anyone who has composed small to very large test plans and managed those plans through the execution cycle would never design a tool in the fashion of HP QC. It was bad when it was mercury interactives product and it got no better when HP acquired it. HP QC isn&#8217;t just a horrible qa application, it&#8217;s a horrible application period. If you google &#8220;Why HP QC sucks&#8221; you will get hundreds of thousands of results and most of these are dead on accurate. If anyone is reading this, do yourself a favor and find or build a real Test Management Utility before you get in bed with HP QC.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wislon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Wislon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serge,

Great post on this topic. I have personally used HP&#039;s QC in general, but I have had a few issues with QC. When I was looking to upgrade, I had the same questions regarding stability and how testing would pan out.

I personally took a different road and looked at different alternatives, just to see what was out there. QC alternatives were mentioned on http://breakfreefromhp.com/ .. have you ever heard of this web site Serge? Also, have you ever tried out different testing tools? I am curious to my options.

- Michael Wilson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serge,</p>
<p>Great post on this topic. I have personally used HP&#8217;s QC in general, but I have had a few issues with QC. When I was looking to upgrade, I had the same questions regarding stability and how testing would pan out.</p>
<p>I personally took a different road and looked at different alternatives, just to see what was out there. QC alternatives were mentioned on <a href="http://breakfreefromhp.com/" rel="nofollow">http://breakfreefromhp.com/</a> .. have you ever heard of this web site Serge? Also, have you ever tried out different testing tools? I am curious to my options.</p>
<p>- Michael Wilson</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a feature I would like....tell me which developer is the most productive and least productive (i.e. who fixed the most bugs, the fastest etc.). QC has this info in the DB as defects move from assigned to fixed but no way to get the info out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a feature I would like&#8230;.tell me which developer is the most productive and least productive (i.e. who fixed the most bugs, the fastest etc.). QC has this info in the DB as defects move from assigned to fixed but no way to get the info out</p>
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		<title>By: Georges Lauture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georges Lauture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question on Mark Ford’s post from 06/02/2009 at 10:22 pm about &quot;parallel development&quot;.

Just to recap...
- Version 1.1, which is being updated for the version 1.2.
- Version 1.1.1, which was imported from 1.1 and modified for the parallel development/testing.
- You&#039;re finished with version 1.1.1 tests and take a baseline
- You retrofit your changes back into version 1.2 tests.

Here is my question...
1. What do you do with the actual tests in Test Plan that were imported (i.e. 1.1.1)? If you delete them, all run history is lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question on Mark Ford’s post from 06/02/2009 at 10:22 pm about &#8220;parallel development&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just to recap&#8230;<br />
- Version 1.1, which is being updated for the version 1.2.<br />
- Version 1.1.1, which was imported from 1.1 and modified for the parallel development/testing.<br />
- You&#8217;re finished with version 1.1.1 tests and take a baseline<br />
- You retrofit your changes back into version 1.2 tests.</p>
<p>Here is my question&#8230;<br />
1. What do you do with the actual tests in Test Plan that were imported (i.e. 1.1.1)? If you delete them, all run history is lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to execute the previous version of a test case in the TEST LAB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to execute the previous version of a test case in the TEST LAB?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a question on verson control. How do I get rid of obsolete versions? If every time a test is modified a new version is created, you are going to very quickly create a lot of versions. Now I know that there is no delta management of versions, every change results in a complete copy of the test as the new version. 

So how much space is gonig to be consummed for this?
How, when I reach version 20 of a test do I get rid of versions 1-10? 

I will not advise using version control until HP can publish a solution for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a question on verson control. How do I get rid of obsolete versions? If every time a test is modified a new version is created, you are going to very quickly create a lot of versions. Now I know that there is no delta management of versions, every change results in a complete copy of the test as the new version. </p>
<p>So how much space is gonig to be consummed for this?<br />
How, when I reach version 20 of a test do I get rid of versions 1-10? </p>
<p>I will not advise using version control until HP can publish a solution for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nithin Kuriakose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nithin Kuriakose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 05:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just been investigating and playing on the version 10 starter edition from HP. From what I have seen, it runs seamlesly and the installation/customization is also pretty straight forward. This version has actually taken off a pile of pending works from QC admin section and caters widely to the testing community for all facets.

Your article is equally briliant, Serge. Thanks for putting this up.

Regards,
Nithin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just been investigating and playing on the version 10 starter edition from HP. From what I have seen, it runs seamlesly and the installation/customization is also pretty straight forward. This version has actually taken off a pile of pending works from QC admin section and caters widely to the testing community for all facets.</p>
<p>Your article is equally briliant, Serge. Thanks for putting this up.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Nithin</p>
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		<title>By: pravat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pravat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 03:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Avi,
lets continue with amit kumar discussion, 
lets say a project X is under version control, now I create a new folder in Test Plan tab calling it “New Req”, now when I add a new folder “test cases” and test case “test one” under this folder it is checked out with version 1, 
I have a question here regarding the QC 10.0 &quot;version control system&quot; and that is as to how we go about maintaining the complete “Test cases “approval process in the test lab. 
An example of the test approval process is listed as below:
1. &quot;Tester 1&quot; writes some test cases in “test plan tab” 
2. &quot;Tester 2&quot; reviews the test cases and finds some comments/inputs to be added.
3. Tester 1 again incorporates these review comments in QC and finally it goes next level for review and approval. 
Here, is there a way out to track these test cases review comments along with their respective versions and the complete test case approval process.
if there is a link or document for this please direct me.
Thanks 
Pravat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Avi,<br />
lets continue with amit kumar discussion,<br />
lets say a project X is under version control, now I create a new folder in Test Plan tab calling it “New Req”, now when I add a new folder “test cases” and test case “test one” under this folder it is checked out with version 1,<br />
I have a question here regarding the QC 10.0 &#8220;version control system&#8221; and that is as to how we go about maintaining the complete “Test cases “approval process in the test lab.<br />
An example of the test approval process is listed as below:<br />
1. &#8220;Tester 1&#8243; writes some test cases in “test plan tab”<br />
2. &#8220;Tester 2&#8243; reviews the test cases and finds some comments/inputs to be added.<br />
3. Tester 1 again incorporates these review comments in QC and finally it goes next level for review and approval.<br />
Here, is there a way out to track these test cases review comments along with their respective versions and the complete test case approval process.<br />
if there is a link or document for this please direct me.<br />
Thanks<br />
Pravat</p>
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		<title>By: Umesh Nayak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umesh Nayak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Serge,

Good explanation with helpful information about Quality Center.
Appreciate a lot ! Thanks for good work !

Regards
Umesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Serge,</p>
<p>Good explanation with helpful information about Quality Center.<br />
Appreciate a lot ! Thanks for good work !</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Umesh.</p>
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