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	<title>Comments on: Can a Classic CMDB Cope With Business Service Management?</title>
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		<title>By: HP uCMDB 7.0 Base Implementation Training /// beteo</title>
		<link>http://www.beteoblog.com/2008/08/07/can-a-classic-cmdb-cope-with-business-service-management/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>HP uCMDB 7.0 Base Implementation Training /// beteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UCMDB is able to store all kinds of properties of all kinds of systems. Nevertheless it is not a trivial task to use the UCMDB together with application lifecycle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andreas Schegg</title>
		<link>http://www.beteoblog.com/2008/08/07/can-a-classic-cmdb-cope-with-business-service-management/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Schegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, 
many thanks for your comments and the 2 valuable links that I can only recommend reading all readers of above post. It looks like beteo and Managed Objects are well aligned regarding the value of a CMDB and the do's and don'ts of CMDB initiatives. 

Comprehensive Configuration Management storing the appropriate data is key for the management of changes of all services, beyond the scope of ITIL initiatives. Service Oriented Architectures, complex, heterogeneous systems and applications landscapes need a crystal ball for the change manager, a comprehensive CMDB. 

On beteo blog you find many more posts about the value of CMDB's and impact analysis in the context of Application Lifecycle management not only for SAP IT. Please feel free to comment them. 

beteo is glad to publish and discuss your posts and posts from industry experts on http://www.beteoblog.com and translated by beteo to German on http://blog.beteo.ch.

I look forward to read more from you. Cheers.

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,<br />
many thanks for your comments and the 2 valuable links that I can only recommend reading all readers of above post. It looks like beteo and Managed Objects are well aligned regarding the value of a CMDB and the do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts of CMDB initiatives. </p>
<p>Comprehensive Configuration Management storing the appropriate data is key for the management of changes of all services, beyond the scope of ITIL initiatives. Service Oriented Architectures, complex, heterogeneous systems and applications landscapes need a crystal ball for the change manager, a comprehensive CMDB. </p>
<p>On beteo blog you find many more posts about the value of CMDB&#8217;s and impact analysis in the context of Application Lifecycle management not only for SAP IT. Please feel free to comment them. </p>
<p>beteo is glad to publish and discuss your posts and posts from industry experts on <a href="http://www.beteoblog.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.beteoblog.com</a> and translated by beteo to German on <a href="http://blog.beteo.ch" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://blog.beteo.ch');" rel="nofollow">http://blog.beteo.ch</a>.</p>
<p>I look forward to read more from you. Cheers.</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Strong</title>
		<link>http://www.beteoblog.com/2008/08/07/can-a-classic-cmdb-cope-with-business-service-management/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right on the mark with your analysis Andreas; the CMDB should be all about the “service.”  Managed Objects believes that the myths of the CMDB are in part caused by the misnomer of calling it a “database.”  ITIL v3 has done well to modify the name to a CMS, or configuration management system, which might, for example encompass several “sub-CMDBs” such as the CMDB associated with an asset management tool.  As a case in point, we believe the best approach to a CMS, or as you say S-CMDB, might tie together asset and performance or other existing data sources through API level integration.   We’ve spelled out this philosophy in a couple of published articles I’ve listed below.  

10 Tips for a Successful CMDB Project
http://www.itsmwatch.com/itil/article.php/3734016 

Myths of the CMDB
http://datacenterjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=1477&#38;Itemid=40</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right on the mark with your analysis Andreas; the CMDB should be all about the “service.”  Managed Objects believes that the myths of the CMDB are in part caused by the misnomer of calling it a “database.”  ITIL v3 has done well to modify the name to a CMS, or configuration management system, which might, for example encompass several “sub-CMDBs” such as the CMDB associated with an asset management tool.  As a case in point, we believe the best approach to a CMS, or as you say S-CMDB, might tie together asset and performance or other existing data sources through API level integration.   We’ve spelled out this philosophy in a couple of published articles I’ve listed below.  </p>
<p>10 Tips for a Successful CMDB Project<br />
<a href="http://www.itsmwatch.com/itil/article.php/3734016" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://www.itsmwatch.com/itil/article.php/3734016');" rel="nofollow">http://www.itsmwatch.com/itil/article.php/3734016</a> </p>
<p>Myths of the CMDB<br />
<a href="http://datacenterjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1477&amp;Itemid=40" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://datacenterjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1477&amp;Itemid=40');" rel="nofollow">http://datacenterjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=1477&amp;Itemid=40</a></p>
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